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and people like wayne lapierre and others just found these flames. they make a lot of money doing it. it supports them politically. >> why does it work? >> i think they are preying on fears and worries and anxieties. >> is he crazy like a sfox? >> i think he's crazy like millions of the other people. i don't know if he believes this stuff. >> i think he behaves like the people who are scared. that's what i think works. by the way, the class thing is so important here. if you can convince the average guy, usually a guy in pennsylvania who is a deer hunter who once a year goes out and shoots deer. i don't do it, but fine, you do it. they go out and do it. and you say it's the elite media types t. . it's the people in hollywood that make all the money. they get their kicks some other way. you've got this one little hob bee. i think it's brilliantly evil. >> it is brilliantly evil, although it's not as brilliant anymore because i don't think it's working. david is right, it does work in riling up some pockets. but i think that's what he counted on with t
and people like wayne lapierre and others just found these flames. they make a lot of money doing it. it supports them politically. >> why does it work? >> i think they are preying on fears and worries and anxieties. >> is he crazy like a sfox? >> i think he's crazy like millions of the other people. i don't know if he believes this stuff. >> i think he behaves like the people who are scared. that's what i think works. by the way, the class thing is so important...
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and also wayne lapierre. this is very important. because if you look at the profiles of all the people that committed these mass murders in newtown and aurora and across -- virginia tech, they are all hispanic drug gang leaders. and that's exactly what wayne lapierre said in an op-ed that americans need to buy guns because those latin americans are coming to america, and they're going to kill you people. this is who a lot of republicans in congress are thinking about falling off -- don't do it. don't hurt our party anymore. let wayne lapierre go wherever he wants to go. he's going to destroy the party. we're going to talk about the crazy op-ed has horrible for our party's image, horrible for the conservative movement's image, goes against everything ronald reagan stood for. we'll talk about that in a minute. first, breaking news. this is bizarre. the feel-good story of the olympic games involved in possibly murder. >> this was a total jaw-dropper this morning. oscar pistorius, for those people who don't know, is a south african runn
and also wayne lapierre. this is very important. because if you look at the profiles of all the people that committed these mass murders in newtown and aurora and across -- virginia tech, they are all hispanic drug gang leaders. and that's exactly what wayne lapierre said in an op-ed that americans need to buy guns because those latin americans are coming to america, and they're going to kill you people. this is who a lot of republicans in congress are thinking about falling off -- don't do it....
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citizen lapierre who is -- is he this screamer of fire in the theater? wayne lapierre. watch him go to work. he just sent out a mass manifesto linking a lifeline from every spooked out crowd in the country from one to the other asking them all to arm themselves while there's still time, arm themselves. afraid of looting after a storm? get a gun. upset by illegal immigration? get a gun. don't like crime or drugs, get yourself a damn gun, man. that's the wayne lapierre message today. worried about the debt crisis? worried about the chaos coming afterwards, you know the drill, get a gun. arm yerds, america. it's not just a right, it's a duty. it's not just about uncle sam who is coming to get you in one of those black helicopters, it's that mob at the gate headed over the rio grande as we speak and right for your house up in idaho, right as we speak. lock and load. do it now. there's not much time. they're coming for you. you think this is crazy? well, this is wayne lapierre talking, the head of the nsds, and what does that tell you? it tells but a new division in america
citizen lapierre who is -- is he this screamer of fire in the theater? wayne lapierre. watch him go to work. he just sent out a mass manifesto linking a lifeline from every spooked out crowd in the country from one to the other asking them all to arm themselves while there's still time, arm themselves. afraid of looting after a storm? get a gun. upset by illegal immigration? get a gun. don't like crime or drugs, get yourself a damn gun, man. that's the wayne lapierre message today. worried...
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>> wayne lapierre's own words, no loopholes. we have universal background checks. 91% of americans, republican party in washington, d.c., support this. 91% of americans, and the question is, mika, are they going to continue to be run off the end of the cliff by extremists that make up the hard right of their party that destroys their opportunities to win national elections? this is very simple. by the way, people say oh, joe, he's a -- no, i'm not. i still believe what i've always believed ideologically. i just have always believed in winning. >> yeah. >> maybe it's because i go to university of alabama. we like to win at the university of alabama. we believe in winning. we believe you don't get the ball and run it into the other guy's end zone. you try to win games. this republican party is chasing the most extreme element in their own party through the primary processes, and that's why harry reid right now is running the senate. >> but there are -- i mean, you saw the front page of the business section of "the new york times"
>> wayne lapierre's own words, no loopholes. we have universal background checks. 91% of americans, republican party in washington, d.c., support this. 91% of americans, and the question is, mika, are they going to continue to be run off the end of the cliff by extremists that make up the hard right of their party that destroys their opportunities to win national elections? this is very simple. by the way, people say oh, joe, he's a -- no, i'm not. i still believe what i've always...
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so, e.j., wayne lapierre wrote a crazy op-ped piece yesterday somewhat in response to the president, then there he is today. and it's clearly a -- he keeps repeating this line, buy more guns, buy more guns. it's almost more overtly than ever a gun industry shill of let's just run up the sales. >> well, you know, i thought long and hard about this, and i've decided that actually you are writing most of wayne lapierre's material, because it doesn't make sense in any other way. it creates awesome segments for your show. the people, the only people this can appeal to are "a" the gun manufacturers as you say because he keeps saying, buy more guns. "b" the most extreme right end of the republican party base. i miean you look at this piece e wrote in the "daily caller." he says when the next terrorist attack comes, not with, just when, a paragraph that begins hurricanes, tornadoes, riots, terrorists, gangs, alone, criminals. there's a craziness about the rhetoric. so the only other thing i can think of reading this other than the fact you might have written it all is it's about the competit
so, e.j., wayne lapierre wrote a crazy op-ped piece yesterday somewhat in response to the president, then there he is today. and it's clearly a -- he keeps repeating this line, buy more guns, buy more guns. it's almost more overtly than ever a gun industry shill of let's just run up the sales. >> well, you know, i thought long and hard about this, and i've decided that actually you are writing most of wayne lapierre's material, because it doesn't make sense in any other way. it creates...
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your article details how wayne lapierre took the nra from a group that represented gun owners not one supported by and supportive of the gun industry. can you explain to the viewers the element of money that's in play here? >> well, the nra is a dark money group. it doesn't have to disclose its dono donors, but apparently it's good pr for a number of gun makers to be affiliated with the nra. that we know about that the nra has disclosed we know about millions. they have the golden ring of freedom and they have access to wayne lapierre and help shape policy. >> the yoshths has a wonderful piece on how a brilliant marketing campaign has made thea r-15 is best selling gun while slate recently estimated that assault rifles represent a half billion dollar industry. now, just to be clear, this isn't about children. this isn't about the second amendment for the nra. this is about corporate profits, isn't it? it's about making money for gun manufacturers. >> that's right. and i would commend tim's article to everyone. it's a superb piece. it's a very important piece. i think you put your fing
your article details how wayne lapierre took the nra from a group that represented gun owners not one supported by and supportive of the gun industry. can you explain to the viewers the element of money that's in play here? >> well, the nra is a dark money group. it doesn't have to disclose its dono donors, but apparently it's good pr for a number of gun makers to be affiliated with the nra. that we know about that the nra has disclosed we know about millions. they have the golden ring of...
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should the republicans stick with the nra or tell wayne lapierre to get a real job? how could a party built other the decades on the people who left the democrats abandon those issues that attracted the rule south and the west people and the miners and the ranchers and the gun owners. and the people furious about immigration. how do you ban those people and keep a party? tonight an expert, a passionate believer that politics can get better. my colleague joe scarborough. here's the question. how do you keep this huge tent the republican party has built in the last 30 or 40 years with people from the south, the west, the miners, the ranchers, the religious right, all those people that have decided the republican party is their natural home and yet you have people in the fringe costing you your image. >> well, you've got to stand up to people on the fringe. you know, when parties go extreme they get roundly defeated. it happened to democrats in 1984. it happened to the republican neocons on 2006. it happened in the off-year elections back in 2010. americans thought demo
should the republicans stick with the nra or tell wayne lapierre to get a real job? how could a party built other the decades on the people who left the democrats abandon those issues that attracted the rule south and the west people and the miners and the ranchers and the gun owners. and the people furious about immigration. how do you ban those people and keep a party? tonight an expert, a passionate believer that politics can get better. my colleague joe scarborough. here's the question. how...
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and unfortunately, nothing i have said here about bloo blood-drenched lobbyist wayne lapierre, i have not made the list. in fact no one from msnbc has made the list, but nbc is on the list, and maybe we can presume that everybody picking up a paycheck is on the list. and that would put me on that guy on the list. but i don't want to be on the list with that guy. so i will just have to wait patiently for the nra to put me on the enemy's list. and when and if they do, i hope they don't put me on the anti-gun journalist section of the list, and they probably won't. it just doesn't a single journalist, just cartoonists, that is where you find frank rich, e.j. dionne, and the columnist, jimmy breslin, from whom every newspaper columnist has learned a thing or two. i want to be on the fun section of the list, where albert brooks is, it is by far the longest section of the list and includes more friends of mine than any other part of the list. norman lear, spike lee, rob lowe, madonna. okay, i don't really know her, i just met her a long time ago. you get the idea, this is the fun group. thi
and unfortunately, nothing i have said here about bloo blood-drenched lobbyist wayne lapierre, i have not made the list. in fact no one from msnbc has made the list, but nbc is on the list, and maybe we can presume that everybody picking up a paycheck is on the list. and that would put me on that guy on the list. but i don't want to be on the list with that guy. so i will just have to wait patiently for the nra to put me on the enemy's list. and when and if they do, i hope they don't put me on...
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this caller is plugged into what wayne lapierre is talking about. he thinks the president has a secret agenda that will end up with the confiscation of guns and the takeover of towns and neighborhoods and our country. that is ridiculous. of steps opinion is out with gun owners in this country. host: from twitter -- as one of the sponsors of the assault weapons ban of 2013, tells about the exemptions. guest: i encourage anybody who has this question to go and read the assault weapons ban that we introduced some weeks ago. that bill actually lists several thousand weapons that would not be illegal under the law. that is not an includes a list. it is just a set of examples of weapons, over 10,000 weapons, that would still be available to individuals. the assault weapons ban says that a gun that has a detachable clip and another military feature like a pistol grip, that would be reserved for military usage. the thousands of weapons today that are used largely for hunting and sports shooting would still be available that is a really good resource. i cann
this caller is plugged into what wayne lapierre is talking about. he thinks the president has a secret agenda that will end up with the confiscation of guns and the takeover of towns and neighborhoods and our country. that is ridiculous. of steps opinion is out with gun owners in this country. host: from twitter -- as one of the sponsors of the assault weapons ban of 2013, tells about the exemptions. guest: i encourage anybody who has this question to go and read the assault weapons ban that we...
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and why even chris wallace has concluded that wayne lapierre is a little bit crazy. >>> and a bigger story behind the super bowl, the power outage, six words, if we only had a brain. all stations come over to mission a for a final go. this is for real this time. step seven point two one two. verify and lock. command is locked. five seconds. three, two, one. standing by for capture. the most innovative software on the planet... dragon is captured. is connecting today's leading companies...
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and why even chris wallace has concluded that wayne lapierre is a little bit crazy. >>> and a bigger story behind the super bowl, the power outage, six words, if we only had a brain. at a dry cleaner, we replaced people with a machine. what? customers didn't like it. so why do banks do it? hello? hello?! if your bank doesn't let you talk to a real person 24/7, you need an ally. ll ally bank. your money needs an ally. do you guys ride? well... no. sometimes, yeah. yes. well, if you know anybody else who also rides, send them here -- we got great coverage. it's not like bikers love their bikes more than life itself. i doubt anyone will even notice. leading the pack in motorcycle insurance. now, that's progressive. call or click today. aarrggh! >>> this picture, of the president -- is now the subject of scrutiny by the skeeters, people who think this picture of the president skeet shooting is fake. i swear, sometimes politics -- i just can't -- real things, real things happening with gun control next. skeeters. [ female announcer ] today, jason is here to volunteer to help those in need
and why even chris wallace has concluded that wayne lapierre is a little bit crazy. >>> and a bigger story behind the super bowl, the power outage, six words, if we only had a brain. at a dry cleaner, we replaced people with a machine. what? customers didn't like it. so why do banks do it? hello? hello?! if your bank doesn't let you talk to a real person 24/7, you need an ally. ll ally bank. your money needs an ally. do you guys ride? well... no. sometimes, yeah. yes. well, if you know...
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what about wayne lapierre being a featured speaker? is there an identity when the pro-gun lobby, the second amendment people who believe in idea logically that we've got to have a gun to protect ourselves from a tie ran cal government some kay, is that part of the republican -- i went back and looked at the republican platform. it's all pro nra language. is your party, the republican party now, identified pretty much uniquely with the nra. >> first of all, i would say we're the pro liberty, pro freedom party which i believe is part of what the nra platform is. second of all, if you look at states like pennsylvania, ohio, wisconsin, michigan, where we pick up a lot of democratic votes is on that issue where they do feel that obama and others are coming to take away their gun. that's why gun sales are up all across the country. >> do you think obama is coming to take away somebody's gun? >> well, you explain to me why gun sales are up in all these places, where there are very strong democratic bases. >> i wish you'd answer a simple quest
what about wayne lapierre being a featured speaker? is there an identity when the pro-gun lobby, the second amendment people who believe in idea logically that we've got to have a gun to protect ourselves from a tie ran cal government some kay, is that part of the republican -- i went back and looked at the republican platform. it's all pro nra language. is your party, the republican party now, identified pretty much uniquely with the nra. >> first of all, i would say we're the pro...
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. >> this is wayne lapierre's remark. and so on and so on. pretty insulting and coming from a man who seems to me his sole purpose is try to guarantee that no controls are brought into prohibit the sale of guns. >> that is right. they oppose everything the atf to do their job. they have made it difficult to keep data. they have made it difficult to do proper research. also that manufactures of weapons can produce more. and then they press all of this. it is a gun culture. that culture is letting bad things happen. >> well, you are doing a fantastic job on this tonight. >> piers, thank you you have been wonderful thank you so much for your help. it is uphill all the way. thank you very much indeed. >> thank you. >> joining me now is william beg. he was in the emergency room on the day of the sandy hook massacre. thank you for coming back on the show. you showed everybody today how guns really work in the real work. i want to show a little part of what you did today. >> looks like we have a well placed hit. get that out of the way. there is the
. >> this is wayne lapierre's remark. and so on and so on. pretty insulting and coming from a man who seems to me his sole purpose is try to guarantee that no controls are brought into prohibit the sale of guns. >> that is right. they oppose everything the atf to do their job. they have made it difficult to keep data. they have made it difficult to do proper research. also that manufactures of weapons can produce more. and then they press all of this. it is a gun culture. that...
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because he has put out sensible solutions versus wayne lapierre and the nra and wayne lapierre rants that he put out in the "daily caller" yesterday, again focused on the fear that you just talked about, carol. talking about hispanic gangs going crazy. talking about those people in brooklyn after sandy. i mean, it was just a very racist rant that does not do any good for their position. and the reality of it is, carol, the positions -- the proposals that the president has put out are very sensible. there's a quinnipiac poll that came out yesterday that essentially said that 56% of americans, a majority, not a huge majority, but a majority, support bans on assault weapons on and on the high-capacity magazine clips. 92%, carol, support the universal background checks. >> but there's no chance of -- this community leader also says, you can talk about banning assault weapons all you want. but you have to get to the root of the problem. and the problem she says, isn't so much about guns, it's about the gun culture. and the culture of violence. >> i agree. >> especially on the main streets
because he has put out sensible solutions versus wayne lapierre and the nra and wayne lapierre rants that he put out in the "daily caller" yesterday, again focused on the fear that you just talked about, carol. talking about hispanic gangs going crazy. talking about those people in brooklyn after sandy. i mean, it was just a very racist rant that does not do any good for their position. and the reality of it is, carol, the positions -- the proposals that the president has put out are...
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we're too caught in wayne lapierre and rhetoric, to me nra is about buying and selling guns, not about second amendment and gun safety. we should focus on the issues. >> trafficking of guns. >> the leadership of the nra represent the gun lobby and those folks invested in selling more guns. i don't think they're interested protecting the second amendment rights. obviously lapierre as spokesperson has not given enough compass nat narrative to the kinds of things happening in mass shootings and chicago, and at the end of the day we need a conversation sans nra. i agree their power is a little overstated and this is a moment to move the conversation forward towards gun safety. >> and we said time and time again, salcalia, clarence thoma alito and conservatives in 2008 gave americans the second amendment right that we always believe we conservatives always believe was contained inside the second amendment. >> right. >> you don't need wayne lapierre out there now doing it for you. i wonder why they don't let david king go. because lapierre is such - such -- lapierre is such a nightmare. almo
we're too caught in wayne lapierre and rhetoric, to me nra is about buying and selling guns, not about second amendment and gun safety. we should focus on the issues. >> trafficking of guns. >> the leadership of the nra represent the gun lobby and those folks invested in selling more guns. i don't think they're interested protecting the second amendment rights. obviously lapierre as spokesperson has not given enough compass nat narrative to the kinds of things happening in mass...
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. >> senator, i want to read you what wayne lapierre from the nra said about you personally, on saturday night. dianne feinstein commented she has had a gun bill on her desk, waiting for the right time. so people can be persuaded to her political agenda, so on and so on. very patronizing, very insulting from a man who it seems to me, his modus operandi, seems to be the sale of more guns. >> they have made it difficult for everybody, for the atf, the btf to do their jobs. they have made the law difficult to do proper research. all so that manufacturers of weapons can produce more. and then they press all of this. so it is a gun culture. and that gun culture is letting bad things happen. >> well, you're doing a fantastic job on this, senator, and i absolutely applaud you. >> piers, thank you, you have been wonderful. thank you so much for your help. it is uphill all the way. >> senator feinstein, as always, thank you very much, indeed. >> you're very welcome, thank you. >>> joining me, dr. william begg, who was in the emergency room on the day of the sandy hook elementary school massacre.
. >> senator, i want to read you what wayne lapierre from the nra said about you personally, on saturday night. dianne feinstein commented she has had a gun bill on her desk, waiting for the right time. so people can be persuaded to her political agenda, so on and so on. very patronizing, very insulting from a man who it seems to me, his modus operandi, seems to be the sale of more guns. >> they have made it difficult for everybody, for the atf, the btf to do their jobs. they have...
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obviously, wayne lapierre, who's a guy that i -- i support the second amendment. i think maybe they should ship him to france for a couple years. >> i think he hurt the movement. i think it's made it easier to sit there and say, wait a minute, whose side do you want to be on? they've been bad spokespeople on this front. it has made it easier for a tom coburn, who by the way is probably going to be the lynch pin here. schumer has been negotiating with him. they want to get coburn as a co-spon ssor on the background check. >> diane feinstein, chuck schumer. these people, they cannot push the republicans in any direction whatsoever. but wayne lapierre's mistakes, mika, week after week after week, his horrific performance on fox -- >> every single one was a cringer. >> the stupid thing they did with their gun app that little kids could play. on the month anniversary of the sandy hook slaughter. the commercial going after the president's kids. wayne lapierre did more to damage the nra than any democrat or liberal could ever do. >> he totally did. i can't imagine anybod
obviously, wayne lapierre, who's a guy that i -- i support the second amendment. i think maybe they should ship him to france for a couple years. >> i think he hurt the movement. i think it's made it easier to sit there and say, wait a minute, whose side do you want to be on? they've been bad spokespeople on this front. it has made it easier for a tom coburn, who by the way is probably going to be the lynch pin here. schumer has been negotiating with him. they want to get coburn as a...
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and it goes to something we've been saying for a long time, that wayne lapierre not only is out of the mainstream, but he's out of touch with his own membership, with the nra, which is to say when he says that nobody wants universal background checks and then you look at the numbers, and it's something like 90% of americans want them, there is a desire for some measures. not extreme to go take their guns away, but there is a desire in this country, not just from democrats and liberals, but from americans as we saw there to do something about guns. >> the numbers have shifted dramatically, john heilemann. like they haven't shifted in recent history. and last night there was a special election. it was in a democratic seat to replace jesse jackson. a lot of people are scoffing about it. conservatives immediately because michael bloomberg went in. there was a candidate that was in a competitive race who was supported by the nra. bloomberg came in. and it changed everything overnight. >> he did. and he spent, i believe, $2 million on that race in a media market like chicago in a race at thi
and it goes to something we've been saying for a long time, that wayne lapierre not only is out of the mainstream, but he's out of touch with his own membership, with the nra, which is to say when he says that nobody wants universal background checks and then you look at the numbers, and it's something like 90% of americans want them, there is a desire for some measures. not extreme to go take their guns away, but there is a desire in this country, not just from democrats and liberals, but from...
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. >> wayne lapierre runs the nra. he's a fascinating and in my view a very dangerous character. he has done complete u-turns on background checks. he used to be in total favor of universal background checks. he was in favor of all schools being gun free. now he wants the opposite. everything is geared towards now with the nra and the leadership, not the membership, but the leadership toward the sale of guns and ammunition. >> and the recommendations are to keep the flow and sale of guns. 3 million guns are imported to the united states every year, 5 million guns that are manufactured here are sold. the nra is funded by the gun lobbyists. i say to smith & wesson, to remington, all the other gun manufacturers, what about putting a gps chip in those guns? you assume the responsibility and cost. i have proposed this to white house, to congress. put a gps chip in that gun. so the responsible gun owner whose house gets robbed by some little punk, and those guns are sold to the bad guys, you should be able to act vite it like i have an ipad, and if somebody steals my ipad, i can activa
. >> wayne lapierre runs the nra. he's a fascinating and in my view a very dangerous character. he has done complete u-turns on background checks. he used to be in total favor of universal background checks. he was in favor of all schools being gun free. now he wants the opposite. everything is geared towards now with the nra and the leadership, not the membership, but the leadership toward the sale of guns and ammunition. >> and the recommendations are to keep the flow and sale of...
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>> you know, the thing is, you've got wayne lapierre. >> yeah. >> who really was a lot closer to where americans are today. >> almost aware. >> than he is right now. because 92% of americans want universal background checks. i think that's coming. >> all right. meanwhile, president obama gained an ally in his efforts to pass new gun legislation in the wake of the newtown shootings. congressman joe heck, republican from nevada, backed universal background checks for firearms saying, quote, i think the idea of background checks across the board, i'm not opposed to them. and i disagree with people who say that this is going to be the first step to gun registration, which leads to gun con physician indication. c con physician >> they go through a background check. and guess what? they're not part of a national registry. >> right. >> nobody's coming to get their guns. the black helicopters around circling their house. nobody's taking their livestock. you can do this. you can make sure that felons can't walk into a gun store or go to a gun show and buy weapons. >> this is one of the points t
>> you know, the thing is, you've got wayne lapierre. >> yeah. >> who really was a lot closer to where americans are today. >> almost aware. >> than he is right now. because 92% of americans want universal background checks. i think that's coming. >> all right. meanwhile, president obama gained an ally in his efforts to pass new gun legislation in the wake of the newtown shootings. congressman joe heck, republican from nevada, backed universal background...
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lapierre says. >> what's wrong with that? >> rose: nothing, i'm just making a point. that ice his principle part of his speech. >> the republican party today has got some problems, obviously. it's got to reach out -- and they're saying it. ey've got to chae. ericantor is saying it, marco rubio is saying it, paul ryan is saying it, governor jindal is saying it. the question is how do you think the republican party has to change? >> i'm not one of those who believes that our philosophy is somehow fundamentally flawed or that we need to be more like democrats. democrats love to tell us that if you guys would just be like us you'll win elections. well, i remember one of the low points of my career was on the morning after the '76 election jerry ford had lost his voice and i had to get on the telephone with the president and read the president's concession statement to jimmy carter. that hurt, i do not enjoy that moment. but it also it was beginning, if you will, of what became the reagan revolution in the sense that those four ye
lapierre says. >> what's wrong with that? >> rose: nothing, i'm just making a point. that ice his principle part of his speech. >> the republican party today has got some problems, obviously. it's got to reach out -- and they're saying it. ey've got to chae. ericantor is saying it, marco rubio is saying it, paul ryan is saying it, governor jindal is saying it. the question is how do you think the republican party has to change? >> i'm not one of those who believes that...